Thanks Ivar. You are not alone when you feel ashamed of your country. Mine has it's share of issues. BIG ones. I only took a 123mm and a 1.4 extender because I have real trouble keeping my next size ... 300 mm steady without a tripod. We were 25-75 meters away. At the closest we were up in a little shed which is used as a blind. The pics when the cubs and raccoon were looking up...was when we were the closest. I think all they could see was the camera lens...but I'm sure they knew we were there. The guide insisted that we didn't talk...he didn't want them to relate a human voice to comfort with closeness.