My Canon A650 IS http://www.dpreview.com/products/canon/compacts/canon_a650is Think Grade C then downgrade to Grade D ... yes it has that bashed about look manly men like so much infact it may even have a tash. When you have it your life will be complete. You will wonder how you ever got out of bed without it. Only that's right only £50 + postage as that's wot i paid Peanuts for something that will enhance your chances of getting laid and your comedic talent. (Spec : huh who needs spec when we can photograph even with an orange 1/1.7" 35-210 f2.8-4.8, 1cm macro, iso1600, swivel screen, ovf mode dial with full manual control, damn handy liveview shows all changes straightaway NO RAW, 12MP was the best of the G series of that time i think G7 without RAW & dials)